On our historic 50th episode (thanks for listening!) Matt chats with Pat about the fat cat that sat on the mat.
Actually, they talk about Pat’s long and impressive career fighting for Utah’s environment and citizens: From his tenure as the chief of the BLM under President Clinton to his work as co-counsel for Tim DeChristopher during his 2011 trial for his climate activism. Pat talks about how relations between federal land managers and some Utah citizens have worsened, his opinion on the Utah Legislature’s bid to “take over” federal lands and the factors he thinks will play into the Obama Administration’s fateful Bears Ears monument decision.
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